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  1. Mark

    And… I have a new addition to my Kindle. BTW, as of today this Kinde edition book was only $3.79 and with the kindle purchase you get the Audible audio version for only $3.99.

    No, I don’t work for Amazon, but a great deal is a great deal!

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  2. Mark

    Ok, so now that I have read this book I have some questions in relation to a more Eastern (in world-view) Muslim, and how apologetics, critical thinking, and authority structures can play a role in discipleship (I prefer this term over conversion, but I am referring to the process by which a Muslim becomes a follower of Jesus).

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      Doug Coleman

      Mark,
      Thanks for reading and commenting. In regard to your previous comment, I agree that Westerners who have not lived outside of the West or interacted with non-westerners typically do not understand the importance others give to dreams. So, this may take some adjustment and learning on our part. Therefore, we need to be good anthropologists. And we also need to think carefully about the role of dreams in salvation, particularly in terms of their degree of authority.

      Second, what questions arose for you after reading Qureshi’s book?

  3. Mark

    Well, you hit on one of my questions. I have searched for a scholarly treatment of biblical texts concerning dreams and visions, but cannot find any. Particularly I would be interested in researching how the biblical accounts relate to the present phenomena of Muslims coming to faith in Christ. Like the Qureshi book, everything that I have found that deals with dreams and visions as it relates to Muslims who are being saved is anecdotal. Do you have any suggestions?

    I will say this about the “degree of authority” that dreams and visions play in a MBB’s salvation: it seems that they are highly authoritative to the convert. They seem to act as either a final nail in the coffin for a Muslim who has been investigating the truth in Scripture (like the Qureshi account), or they act as a spur for the Muslim to seek out the gospel. Paul seems to think that his vision of Jesus on the road to Damascus was authoritative. I would however be highly suspicious of any account of Muslim who was ‘won’ to Christ through a dream alone.

    But a dream or vision given to a Muslim seeker bypasses the roadblocks to the gospel message in an Eastern Muslim worldview, no? This is because the messenger carries more weight than the message in Islamic cultures. Ideas which might not otherwise be possible become plausible to the Muslim if the messenger is trustworthy.

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      I am not aware of a book length treatment of biblical texts concerning dreams. Maybe that can be your research project. 🙂

      Regarding dreams and authority, I think we may not always be able to neatly categorize the experiential reality as much as we might like. Perhaps asking a couple of questions might bring some clarity.

      1. Is someone basing their salvation solely or largely on a dream or vision they have had? Many of the stories I read don’t seem to fall into this category. A dream or vision may have been a significant turning point, but the dream often leads them to a believer who shares the gospel with them, or to read the Bible. This seems to be the case with both Saul (Acts 9) and Cornelius (Acts 10). The dream or vision is quite significant, and both men seem to respond as if it is authoritative. But in neither case does it seem to be the sole or primary basis of their salvation. Personally, if I encountered a professing believer who seemed to base his or her salvation solely or largely on a dream, I would want to point him/her to Scripture and work and pray to gradually see Scripture move to a place of higher and final authority in their lives. This leads to a second question.

      2. Does the dream or vision seem to carry equal or greater weight than Scripture? In my opinion it is more difficult to answer this question than it may first appear because there is some subjectivity in how an evaluation is done. In some cases it may be rather clear, in others not so much. Also, Paul referred to his own experiences of visions on a few occasions, and the way he refers to them indicates they were quite significant for him. Does this mean, however, that they were more authoritative for him than Scripture? Also, if we believe in a closed canon, does that change anything in regard to this question?

      This is one of the areas of Qureshi’s book that needs some clarification, in my opinion. Qureshi was interacting with Scripture heavily prior to his final struggle. It seems that the dreams played a very important role for him at that point, even finally persuading him that Christianity is true. Anecdotally, this is simply how it appears to have happened for him. I would be interested to hear him speak to this question now, about 9 years after his conversion. I suspect he would say that the dreams did play a very significant role in him overcoming the final hurdles, but I also suspect he would say Scripture is his ultimate and highest authority.

      On a side note, many dreams and visions in Scripture aren’t related to an individual’s salvation. Many of them are for warning, direction, etc., etc. Think, for example, of both the OT and NT Joseph.

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